Remembering Yesterday
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Comment from Katherine M. (k-11)
Your book chapters are always well-written (grammatically), but this one disturbs me on a question of commentary and philosophy. So such hangs on the work of the jury, and you show that the jury members take it all so lightly. I know you detailed that there was no debate initially, and no one took notes, but I feel you could have reasoned in more depth the weaknesses of this jury and the dangers. Remember, even as late as the 1950s (in the UK) innocent people suffered the death penalty because of wrong judgements.
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2022
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Your book chapters are always well-written (grammatically), but this one disturbs me on a question of commentary and philosophy. So such hangs on the work of the jury, and you show that the jury members take it all so lightly. I know you detailed that there was no debate initially, and no one took notes, but I feel you could have reasoned in more depth the weaknesses of this jury and the dangers. Remember, even as late as the 1950s (in the UK) innocent people suffered the death penalty because of wrong judgements.
Comment Written 03-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2022
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Thank you, Katherine, I was very disturbed by the actions of the jury. I've seen news about other jury trials since, and it seems in this city, they almost always convict. Maybe I should have said more. I did in the journal I was keeping at the time, but people seem to not review posts if they are long. Thank you for the review.
Beth
Comment from Spitfire
A clear narrative about the situation. Hard to say if justice was served. At least no one's life was at stake as in the electric chair. You made a decision based on your family's need. Also your health was suffering. No need to apology. I lived the human interest bit about the handsome lawyer.
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2022
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A clear narrative about the situation. Hard to say if justice was served. At least no one's life was at stake as in the electric chair. You made a decision based on your family's need. Also your health was suffering. No need to apology. I lived the human interest bit about the handsome lawyer.
Comment Written 02-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2022
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Thanks again for the review and great rating. I hate to have to back down from anything but I did what I had too.
Beth
Comment from lyenochka
Oh my! I'm convinced now that I don't want to serve on a jury after hearing your experience! It's good that you kept to what was true and what you observed and carefully took notes on. Scary how some women just were swayed by good looks! I'm sorry that you hard the heart issues because of all the stress! Thanks for sharing!
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Oh my! I'm convinced now that I don't want to serve on a jury after hearing your experience! It's good that you kept to what was true and what you observed and carefully took notes on. Scary how some women just were swayed by good looks! I'm sorry that you hard the heart issues because of all the stress! Thanks for sharing!
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Thank you for reviewing this. It made me realize how difficult it is to be in that position and I less sure that I was the justice is actually carried out by jury trials.
Beth
Comment from Ben Colder
Must agree with the neighbor. I would have put it off until doomsday. You did well and to think the ladies were won by some handsome lawyer would have been my red flag. Notes, you bet-cha, the only way to keep in tow.
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Must agree with the neighbor. I would have put it off until doomsday. You did well and to think the ladies were won by some handsome lawyer would have been my red flag. Notes, you bet-cha, the only way to keep in tow.
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Thank you, Chuck. I was disappointed with myself that I let the pressure get to me. I hate having everyone against me. You've made me feel better with your six stars.
Beth
Comment from Jannypan (Jan)
You did a great job with the details of the trial, Beth. I enjoyed reading about it. What seemed like a cut and dried case turned into a long drawn out affair. From the outside looking in after reading your post, I would say the case wasn't proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. There were many what ifs and other things that would've been confusing. Your health was really impacted by your jury duty. The woman snitch acted like a junior high girl tattling. Your recollection reads well with great imagery.
Respectfully, Jan
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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You did a great job with the details of the trial, Beth. I enjoyed reading about it. What seemed like a cut and dried case turned into a long drawn out affair. From the outside looking in after reading your post, I would say the case wasn't proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. There were many what ifs and other things that would've been confusing. Your health was really impacted by your jury duty. The woman snitch acted like a junior high girl tattling. Your recollection reads well with great imagery.
Respectfully, Jan
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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Thank you, Jan. I really appreciate your review and comments. I wouldn't want to be on a jury again.
Beth
Comment from Judy Lawless
Wow, what a terrible case to be a jury member on, Beth. Obviously you were the only one who took it seriously enough to take notes so you could review it all and the end of the day. I think I would have been with you. You've done a great job of describing the process and emotions for us.
One little typo: "and I (had) to say I agreed with the verdict."
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Wow, what a terrible case to be a jury member on, Beth. Obviously you were the only one who took it seriously enough to take notes so you could review it all and the end of the day. I think I would have been with you. You've done a great job of describing the process and emotions for us.
One little typo: "and I (had) to say I agreed with the verdict."
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Thank you Judy. I appreciate you comments and understanding. It wasn't a good experience for me. I wouldn't want to do it again.
BEth
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You're welcome, Beth.
Comment from Ulla
Wow, I feel sorry for you that you didn't feel happy about the trial and the outcome. You did your best, but was still outvoted and persuaded into something that made you wonder. That is not an easy place to be in. Oh, I so love this. Can't wait to what's next. Ulla:)))
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Wow, I feel sorry for you that you didn't feel happy about the trial and the outcome. You did your best, but was still outvoted and persuaded into something that made you wonder. That is not an easy place to be in. Oh, I so love this. Can't wait to what's next. Ulla:)))
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 02-Feb-2022
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Thank you Ulla, 1995 was not a good year for me and things continue to go wrong. I'd rather be writing about the good times.
Beth
Comment from Theodore McDowell
What an ordeal, being brought before the judge for the newspaper clipping and then having to partially cave in on the verdict. YOu needed hazard pay. Well done.
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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What an ordeal, being brought before the judge for the newspaper clipping and then having to partially cave in on the verdict. YOu needed hazard pay. Well done.
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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Thank you, Ted. It was an ordeal. Maybe the students had known the professors intention and had gone along with it. I wasn't convinced, But I was also upset by the way most had decided before they even heard the arguments. Beth
Comment from Elizabeth Emerald
Demoralizing--agonizing! What were the sentences for the students? How long did the trial last? Compelling chapter, superbly narrated.
.. they polled us individually, and I [HAD] to say I agreed with the verdict.
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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Demoralizing--agonizing! What were the sentences for the students? How long did the trial last? Compelling chapter, superbly narrated.
.. they polled us individually, and I [HAD] to say I agreed with the verdict.
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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Thanks Elizabeth. It was a nightmare. I wasn't there for the sentencing. Some thought the students would get less time, Maybe ten years with a chance to get out earlier. I didn't try to find out. I wasn't to erase it from my memory but I guess i wasn't successful.
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As you say, if they were in fact guilty, justice was done. You made the best of a bad situation--if you hadn't offered the compromise, they'd all have been convicted of worse.
Comment from John Ciarmello
First off, I applaud your footnote. It's commendable and Presious. Secondly, I enjoyed this chapter and felt every moment of deliberations. I was surprised you gave in as well and felt your anguish of was justice served. Great chapter! I will have to go back.
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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First off, I applaud your footnote. It's commendable and Presious. Secondly, I enjoyed this chapter and felt every moment of deliberations. I was surprised you gave in as well and felt your anguish of was justice served. Great chapter! I will have to go back.
Comment Written 01-Feb-2022
reply by the author on 01-Feb-2022
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Thank you, John. It is hard to stand alone and I could have been wrong. I wasn't proud of the fact that i gave in. They would have finished a week earlier, if I hadn't made them at least study the facts a little more.
Beth
