The Pedantic Examiner
set the free verse truly free!23 total reviews
Comment from judy corcoran
Don't shackle poetry with definitions. It doesn't like your definitions,because defining poetry is like grasping at the wind - once you catch it, it's no longer wind.
- lol - i put this on my profile the other day ... seems fitting to this write in a way
- interesting mike - form and structure (or the idea that that is most important to poetry) are a real getter-in-the-way
lol as with my crit of your iambic :( in the line
'No! I say it's a poem and it's free,'
- i want to put the emphasis on the 'no' :( :)
love judy
reply by the author on 25-Jan-2012
Don't shackle poetry with definitions. It doesn't like your definitions,because defining poetry is like grasping at the wind - once you catch it, it's no longer wind.
- lol - i put this on my profile the other day ... seems fitting to this write in a way
- interesting mike - form and structure (or the idea that that is most important to poetry) are a real getter-in-the-way
lol as with my crit of your iambic :( in the line
'No! I say it's a poem and it's free,'
- i want to put the emphasis on the 'no' :( :)
love judy
Comment Written 23-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 25-Jan-2012
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Thanks, Judy :-). Sounds like we share an outlook on poetry. I should really take the exclamation mark off 'No!'; that would fix the issue, but I kind of like it there :-).
Mike
Comment from Irish Rose
Fun enjoyable read that is very thought provoking and entertaining. Keep up the great work. I hope to see more like this. It flows well and I wouldn't add to or revise anything on it.
Rose
reply by the author on 20-Jan-2012
Fun enjoyable read that is very thought provoking and entertaining. Keep up the great work. I hope to see more like this. It flows well and I wouldn't add to or revise anything on it.
Rose
Comment Written 20-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 20-Jan-2012
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Thank you, Rose! I can only go so long without poking fun at strict forms, lol. Glad you liked it :-)
Mike
Comment from turtledove
Hi Fleedleflump, what an interesting read, and yes I enjoyed it! Okay, my fav part was the purses and handbag picture...but away from that...cause I collect purses and handbags lol...I found it oh so true, imaginative, flowed well and the rhythm was perfect...I am still working on this word(s) here...pedantic'ly iambic, little slow...lol. have a nice evening/day, turtledove...
reply by the author on 20-Jan-2012
Hi Fleedleflump, what an interesting read, and yes I enjoyed it! Okay, my fav part was the purses and handbag picture...but away from that...cause I collect purses and handbags lol...I found it oh so true, imaginative, flowed well and the rhythm was perfect...I am still working on this word(s) here...pedantic'ly iambic, little slow...lol. have a nice evening/day, turtledove...
Comment Written 20-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 20-Jan-2012
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Thank you, Turtledove - I'm so glad you liked it :-).
Mike
Comment from barbara.wilkey
Maybe if I followed your poem, then I could write a wonderful poem. You did a great job with this poem. I enjoyed reading it.
reply by the author on 19-Jan-2012
Maybe if I followed your poem, then I could write a wonderful poem. You did a great job with this poem. I enjoyed reading it.
Comment Written 18-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 19-Jan-2012
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Thank you, Barbara :-). Forms and how they can get in the way is one of my favourite subjects!
Mike
Comment from Jewell McChesney
Who wouldn't like this read? You are an amazing ,prolific, articulate creator of verbal art.
Good job squeezing in all the descriptions of poetic forms.
Loved it. As always. Genius, you are.
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
Who wouldn't like this read? You are an amazing ,prolific, articulate creator of verbal art.
Good job squeezing in all the descriptions of poetic forms.
Loved it. As always. Genius, you are.
Comment Written 18-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
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Thank you :-). I love weiting poetry about writing poetry!
Mike
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Me too! Will you take a peek at a recent post, of mine, titled, A Poet's Seduction?
Comment from manicblue
This was an enjoyable romp through all the possibilities to choose from - liberated. :) (I wonder how the couplets felt, combined with quatrains and free verse?)
Good iambic pentameter throughout...but these two threw me!
No! I say it's a poem and it's free,
NO! i SAY it's A poEM and IT'S free (trochaic?)
pedantically iambic, obviously,
peDANtiCALly IamBIC, obVIousLY = hexameter obviously!
Oh my, I'm truly confused now. lol (a good, fun poem)
mb xx
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
This was an enjoyable romp through all the possibilities to choose from - liberated. :) (I wonder how the couplets felt, combined with quatrains and free verse?)
Good iambic pentameter throughout...but these two threw me!
No! I say it's a poem and it's free,
NO! i SAY it's A poEM and IT'S free (trochaic?)
pedantically iambic, obviously,
peDANtiCALly IamBIC, obVIousLY = hexameter obviously!
Oh my, I'm truly confused now. lol (a good, fun poem)
mb xx
Comment Written 17-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
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Thank you, Manic :-). I can clear those two up with a little bending of perception. If you pause after the 'No!', it moves the emphasis onto the 'I', fixing that up. On the other line, I'm pronouncing pedanically colloquially (wow, that sounds weird as a pair of words! lol). Hence, the meter is:
peDANtiCLY iAMbic, OBviousLY
I could have used an apostrophe to indicate it (pedantic'ly), but I thought I'd leave it to the drum of the lines, as it always puts me off when I see poems littered with shortened words.
So glad you liked it!
Mike
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pedantically colloquially - that's easy for you to say! LOL
When I write a triolet, I shamelessly use those apostrophes. Then once somebody ask why (they didn't understand meter) - didn't realize there was so much to the explanation! :)
Yes, I really enjoyed reading your poem. Take care. :)
mb xx
Comment from l.raven
I think this very clever. A bit mix and matching going on, And I enjoyed the reading. very well written, and the wording is great.
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
I think this very clever. A bit mix and matching going on, And I enjoyed the reading. very well written, and the wording is great.
Comment Written 17-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
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Thank you, Raven - so glad you enjoyed :-).
Mike
Comment from MyYiaYia
I thought blank verse wasn't supposed to rhyme. I guess I could be wrong but I am not going to look them up, but it seems to me that rhyme, theme, meme, screen, and clean, all rhyme. Set me straight Fleedle. Deb :0)
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
I thought blank verse wasn't supposed to rhyme. I guess I could be wrong but I am not going to look them up, but it seems to me that rhyme, theme, meme, screen, and clean, all rhyme. Set me straight Fleedle. Deb :0)
Comment Written 17-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
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Hi Deb! You're right in that blank verse doesn't rhyme, but the poem is not blank verse - only the first four lines are. Indeed, I went out of my way not to label the poem as anything specific, because it's about how labelling poems leads to expectations of structure which distract people from the content.
If I were to become the title of my poem, this piece would be:
1 quatrain of blank verse, 1 quatrain of abab rhyme, a rhyming couplet, a quatrain of abcb, and another rhyming couplet, all in iambic pentameter. Phew!
Hence, I would argue it's free verse, as indeed is all poetry, from a certain perspective :-)
Mike
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Well, as you can plainly see, I totally got this one wrong. I should have read it a bit better. Now that I have heard your side of the story and gone back and reread the poem, I have finally gotten the 'ah ha' moment. Sorry about the mix up. Maybe it was late when I read it originally. LOL! Thanks for being nice. Deb :0)
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No worries, Deb - I've been in that position many a time!
Mike :-)
Comment from cvcopac
You're not only syllable correct but metered too. This is a great comment on categories. You've managed to elude both the pigeon hole and obscurity and confound the reviewer.
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
You're not only syllable correct but metered too. This is a great comment on categories. You've managed to elude both the pigeon hole and obscurity and confound the reviewer.
Comment Written 17-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
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lol, thank you, cvc. It's my contention that everything is free verse, it might just borrow shapes to help make its point. I think, in our roles as reviewers, we sometimes forget to read the poem and get too hung up on the form and whether it's been adhered to according to this week's agreed 'rules'.
Mike
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I like that way of looking at it
Comment from BLACKDYKE
I find that just about covers everything Mike.
Almost every poetic possibility included here.
The picture serves to tell us of the different
possibilities a woman might encounter whilst
choosing a handbag. Eric
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
I find that just about covers everything Mike.
Almost every poetic possibility included here.
The picture serves to tell us of the different
possibilities a woman might encounter whilst
choosing a handbag. Eric
Comment Written 17-Jan-2012
reply by the author on 18-Jan-2012
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Thanks, Eric - I'm really glad you liked the read.
Mike
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my pleasure